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Things guys never say: (Not mine this time, lifted from from www.crapco.com)

1. I think Barry Manilow is one cool motherfucker.

2. No I don't want another beer. I have to work tomorrow.

3. Her boobs are just too big.

4. You never tell me you love me in the little ways.

5. That chick on "20/20" gives me a woody.

6. Sure! I'd love to wear a condom.

7. We haven't been to the mall for ages, let's go shopping and I can hold your purse.

8. Screw Monday Night Football, let's watch "Ally McBeal".

9. It's late. Put your clothes back on and I'll take you home.

10. Honey, I'm going to the store, do you need more tampons???

11. I know we just made love, but I need to be held.

12. I'm sick of beer, give me a fruit juice with a lemon twist.

13. Great, your mother's coming to stay with us again.

14. I wonder if our gorgeous neighbor knows that her drapes are open when she's getting ready for bed? Maybe I should tell her.

15. No way, you weeded the garden last week. It's my turn.

16. Better get rid of these old Penthouse magazines. I don't look at them any more.

17. This movie has WAY too much nudity.

18. Damn, we're late for church!

19. No! I don't want to see your sister's boobs.

20. Put some panties on for Christ's sake.

21. Eat something!! You are starting to look like a Victoria's Secret Model!!

22. Let's talk, I miss talking.

23. Gay men have rights too!

24. I am just too tired to have sex again today!

Shortstops

My take on the shortstops. Not a tough choice. Wagner wasn't only the best shortstop in the game. According to his peers, he was the best at every position on the field except catcher. It's just that shortstop was the most important, so that's where he ended up. He came up as an outfielder. In his second year, he alternated between first base and third. He never played a single game at shortstop until his fifth year in the majors, when he was already the defending batting and slugging champion. In fact, to put in in modern terms, imagine this. Imagine if the best slugger in baseball - McGwire or Bagwell or Griffey whoever it is - was suddenly discovered also to be a slicker shortstop than Ozzie Smith. You think he'd command a decent salary come contract time? Well, Wagner was that player. In fact, he's kind of frustrating for fantasy gamers because his best batting year was 1900 (OBP .434, slugging .573 - astronomical numbers in that day) - and he never played an inning at shortstop, so you can't make him your fantasy shortstop based on that year.

But could he really hit? Absolutely. Baseball writers make a big deal about the triple crown, but the really important thing is the double crown - on base percentage and slugging average. Wagner won the double crown three years in a row and he was a shortstop then. (Ernie Banks led in slugging only once, never in OBP.)

Now that I've said that, let me add that it seems pretty certain to me that the best shortstop of all-time is playing now, but I don't know yet who he is. Jeter, Rodriguez, and Garciaparra are all kids, and it seems highly probable that at least one of them, maybe even all three, will come to be considered better than Wagner. But for now ol' Hans, dead now for nearly half a century, still holds the title.

In response to a point made by Lawdog in his analysis, I think several modern players could have been the biggest stars of the deadball era. Not Bagwell or McGwire, because they don't have the basic skills needed to succeed in that era. But Henderson or Bonds, with only minor changes in their strategy, would excel. Gwynn would need no changes at all. He could transport back to 1901 with his 1990 skills and kick ass. It's important to realize that Gwynn and Boggs hit close to .400 in modern times, against real pitchers. (Boggs actually had a hidden .400 season - the second half of one year matched with the first half of the next). Pitchers today have a zillion pitches, and there are always fresh arms coming in from the bullpen, either left or right to match the situation, and these pitchers are much bigger and stronger and faster and better conditioned than the athletes of 1901. In Wagner's time there were no tricks except that they kept the same crappy ball in play for the whole game. Aside from that, the pitchers had about one pitch - try to get it across the plate, and vary the velocity to try to foil the batter's timing. Remember they had just started throwing with the modern rules - overhand from 60 feet- only four years before Wagner came up, and they still hadn't much of a clue how to do it. Take Boggs or Gwynn with their peak skills and I think they might hit .500 if they time-traveled back to Wagner's era. You have to remember one thing. Your petite little daughter, if she's on her high school swimming team, could go back and swim laps around Jim Thorpe or any of those great athletes from the turn of the century. The bar just keeps getting raised in every sport which is measured against an absolute standard. Baseball is not, of course. It is measured against a shifting panorama of changing equipment, strike zones, arenas, and competition. As batters improve, their measured performance doesn't necessarily improve because pitchers improve, and because baseball tinkers with the rules to maintain a certain batter-pitcher equilibrium or to improve the game's marketability. But these guys are getting better every generation, just like swimmers and runners and other athletes.

The Gist and Lawdog
Tuna's vidcap collages
Jackie Swanson, Traci Wolfe, Meg Ryan, Kathleen Quinlan a dozen vidcaps from "Lethal Weapon", 17 from "The Doors". Click here to sign up or get info.
Blinky's Runway Snaps
Honor Fraser (#1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7) Scoop's recommendations: #2 is the one to see (#6 and #7 are the same outfit, if you really like it)
WhyScan's Page Three Report
Yesterday is Jo, 21, Leicestershire. (1, 2, 3, 4)

The Gold is Toni Shilleto, 23 September, 1987

Frodo's Page Three PLUS
Today's feature is a large .mpg which is only available in the members' section Frodo's Comments: "As a rule of thumb, if a actress playing a stripper in film, looks good in doing so, she probably is or was a stripper in real life. It takes a long time to develop the muscles and coordination to look good on stage. Penelope Ann Miller in Carlitos Way is a prime example of an actress who probably wasn't a stripper. Then I found this Vid clip of Lisa Boyle. So how convincing is she?"
More bootlegs
Hilary Swank bootlegs from "Boys Don't Cry". Just raw caps. No match up of face and body parts, but available FYI
Hilary Swank bootlegs from "Boys Don't Cry"
Hilary Swank bootlegs from "Boys Don't Cry"
Hilary Swank bootlegs from "Boys Don't Cry"
Kate Winslet bootleg from "Holy Smoke"
Charlize Theron bootleg from"Cider House Rules". Only one frame, but it's quite a good one with a clear shot of face and breasts.
Helena Bonham Carter bootlegs from "The Fight Club", donated by The Roc. This one is a clear breast shot, no face
Helena Bonham Carter bootlegs from "The Fight Club". this one shows her face, one breast, and the side of her hips
words and images fromMongoose
Here's the first batch of caps from Eyes Wide Shut. I'm not going to comment too much on the movie as so many others have already done that. I will say that the first time I watched it I loved it, the second and third time I was bugged by some big flaws. Basically, the movie is lacking in balls, not too meaty but pretty to look at. Any movie about a powerful secret society that's chock full of nudity is right up my alley though, and this one does fit that bill. The movie opens with Nicole Kidman's supertight 32 year old naked ass and here it is:

Julienne Davis plays a junkie hooker who ODs upstairs naked during some big powermonger cocktail party. Speaking of this cocktail party, Dr. Tom Cruise is tempted to join two young supermodel lovelies for a bit of 2-on-1 action. I noticed that the slim brunette (character name is Nuala) is credited as being played by one Stewart Thorndike (!). What the "F" is that?!?! I found out something about Julienne Davis and her role in this movie (don't worry, she's not a man) which I will share in my next post. Here's Julienne in all her buck naked glory.

That semi-famous scene of Kidman and Cruise in front of the mirror. Nicole's showing her little boobs.

Man, I looked and looked all over the internet trying to find out this young woman's name. No luck. She plays one of Cruise's patients sitting on the exam table in her panties. Nice. IMDb lists an uncredited actress named Heather Carter-Drake but did not give even the slightest clue as to her character. Could this be her? If anyone finds out email Scoopy or me (mon@runmongoose.com). Nice tits.

More of Nicole's ass. I think she must work out quite a bit.

Crow
Bebe Neuwirth in "Summer of Sam" (leopard bikini underwear)
Jennifer Esposito in "Summer of Sam" (pokitude)
Mira Sorvino in "Summer of Sam" (all lingerie)
Mira Sorvino in "Summer of Sam"
Mira Sorvino in "Summer of Sam"
Mira Sorvino in "Summer of Sam"
Donbun
Valentina Vargas collage from "The Tigress"
Bo Derek collage from "Woman of Desire"
ReCap
Stephanie McMahon No flesh, but a nice rack. "To The Devil - A Daughter". I wonder if McMahon will get his own daughter naked eventually. If anyone would, he's the (mc) man. Incidentally, Recap was the one who did Zoe Tamerlis yesterday, and I inadvertantly credited them to Don Juan.
FR
Madonna (1, 2) caps from the American Pie show, some pokies, and the top of her butt crack in the second one
PAL
Bridgette Wilson in "The Real Blonde"
Catherine Keener in "The Real Blonde"
Ursula Andress in "Southern Star"
More
Degeneres, Stone "If These walls ... ", from GR
Williams, Sevigny "If These walls ... ", from GR
Robin Givens beautiful topless, from the second issue of Premiere, scanned and imaged beautifully by NeuroScan
Jennifer Aniston another version of the Vanity Fair picture
Jennifer Aniston another version of the Vanity Fair picture, this one from Deftone
Madonna some of the old pre-fame Penthouse pictures
Madonna some of the old pre-fame Penthouse pictures
Madonna some of the old pre-fame Penthouse pictures
Madonna some of the old pre-fame Penthouse pictures
Madonna some of the old pre-fame Penthouse pictures
Madonna some of the old pre-fame Penthouse pictures




Members Bonuses

a Working links in the members' page, text-only in the AdultCheck version

"Lethal Weapon", from Tuna

Tuna's comments were very incisive, and I don't think anyone ever noticed this before. His words follow:

"Lethal Weapon is surely well known to everyone. As many will recall, Glover and Gibson surmise part way through the film that Jackie Swanson was killed by a woman who was in her apartment, and that the woman was probably the hooker who told police she witnessed the suicide jump. Image one of Swanson shows her lying in bed during the opening credits. Look closely at the glass in front of her. You will see the reflection of a naked woman in it. The view is very short, and we don't even know she is going to kill herself yet. I have to wonder why someone would go through all the trouble to put that reflection in the glass, and also, what other amazing details are hidden in a similar way."

NEW FEATURE. If you love Tuna's work but are daunted by the quantity of his output, this might help. Click here for a thumbnail index of all of Tuna's pics from this film. Study the index first, the download the ones you want Traci Wolfe (#1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, Jackie Swanson (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)

"The Doors", from Tuna

Have we had the vote for most overrated rock band yet?

I can't rate this movie honestly, because I have too much tied into it emotionally. I saw it in Norway, slightly tipsy, with the great love of my life, and we had an emotional night afterwards, and everything is all jumbled together in my head, so I'm just not sure what feelings come from the movie and what from the rest of the evening. I'm sure you know the feeling. I do remember it was as much about Oliver stone as Jim Morrison. Doesn't he have Indian shamans appear to everyone, even Lee Harvey Oswald and Al Pacino in that football thing.

The movie did have a clearly lit shot of a Meg Ryan breast, so that alone is good for about 3.9 stars as I see it. I suggest you listen to a song, fast forward to the next song and/or nudity, and skip the pretensions of both the late Mr Morrison and the early Mr Stone. NEW FEATURE. If you love Tuna's work but are daunted by the quantity of his output, this might help. Click here for a thumbnail index of all of Tuna's pics from this film. Study the index first, the download the ones you want Christina Fulton (#1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6) Kathleen Quinlan (#1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7) Meg Ryan (#1, #2, #3, #4)

Frodo's Lisa Boyle .mpg

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